--Chinese Education Forum Dialogue Transcript
Moderator:
Just now the dialogue session and the discussion is very wonderful, the discussion of the issue is very in-depth, very comprehensive, especially the exchange of links to see a lot of people are very enthusiastic, there are a lot of comrades to raise their hands, the relationship between time and not completely exchanged.
The morning's discussion was on the idea of education, the organization of education, education technology, the following into the management system of education, the current management system is generally in accordance with the traditional planned economy in the management of public education, public education, public education is still the only pattern, there is no complete change
. Private education is also developing, how to look at the development of private education, how to stimulate the vitality of education, we will focus on this theme to invite relevant experts and guests to discuss the following dialogue moderator, a member of the China Education Forum of thirty people, deputy director of the Shanxi Provincial Department of Education
director of the China Education Association, vice president Zhang Zhuoyu.
Zhang Zhuoyu:
The topic of this conversation is how to stimulate the vitality of education, which is a very complex topic related to the education system, education management issues.
I think the organizing committee of the conference so designed such a topic, is to take into account the lack of vitality of our education today, I personally agree with the judgment, China in the past 30 years, our society in various fields, the most dynamic is the economic field, the most dynamic in this field of the development of the
fastest, the best results. Compared with the economic field, educational leaders should say that the past 30 years is also dynamic, for example, the emergence of our Chinese education 30 people forum reflects the vitality of education, and then the morning and afternoon have experienced the whole process of the Jin Ting Forum, today this
The forum up and down I think it is vibrant. But compared with the economic field of education is far from enough vitality, where is the evidence, how to activate the vitality, the following listen to the three guests of high opinion.
Fang Zhanhua:
I briefly talk about three ideas ideas, the first idea, today is to talk about private education, a little bit of extension, I think we simply do not understand the education, we in the end what education, simply do not understand. The U.S. has figured it out? No. The United States has a pendulum swing in education. American education has been a pendulum
phenomenon, a moment to this, a moment to that, so do not understand. When the teacher taught something to forget the rest is education, the morning of Mr. Nesbitt said that education do not want to fill the basket, but to light a lamp for students, how to light this lamp, there are different points
methods, and now our education did not light the lamp, just rushed to fill the basket. Just now Mr. Tang Min talk about catechism, I have different ideas, now should not be the time, a lot of teachers, including teachers of colleges and universities, said catechism is only suitable for 985 universities, Tsinghua University students, catechism is not willing to
can not be opened, Tsinghua and Peking University students can not open the heart of the lamp is not open, the desire to know is not yet. This thought of our education, if we talk about the extreme point, our understanding is still in virgin territory, still do not know, we need a lot of exploration, this exploration is now
in trouble is that we do not know what the teaching, but many people think that they already know, so according to know the things tube, including the discussion of many issues are such a problem, he thinks he knows, according to this tube, we think this does not work, that does not work! Just now Zhou Guoping said that the paper was not answered well, Fujian has a writer to do the subject only scored a point, not qualified at all, our questioner thinks that he already knows, already understand, and then education and management, I said this is the root cause of the education is not
energy, now too many tests have a standard, this standard is not a standard, need to play a question mark, why our education There is no vitality, I will say so a point of view, our education still need to explore, especially diversified society still need to explore
. We are in the era of reform and opening up, reform and opening up means what, what do you mean by innovation, innovation is to take a detour, take a detour, heritage, is always in accordance with the original mode of thinking to go on, the faster and further away. Innovation is definitely a detour, now talking about inflection points, the original
to find a growth point in the negative reform is a leapfrog development, to speak common sense is overtaking, I think now in school education, we need to have a detour to overtake the car consciousness, we follow the original practice of refinement of many schools to engage in this thing, many of our schools are exquisite management,
including just out of refined Egoism, we now need to take a new path, especially when it is not clear what education really is, especially when many of us think that education has to be done this way, but we want to take a different path, this time we ran into institutional barriers
. Especially in our public schools, to bend? It's not easy. There are all kinds of systems that are constraining our schools. I'm thinking of calling on schools to go their own way in reform and innovation, the need for decentralization, the need to untie the schools, only then our educational vitality can be stimulated
issued.
The third is the private school, from our country seems to be the real significance of the early 1990s, more than 20 years of history, and now look at the private school is very worthy of our deep thought, inspiration. Private schools according to what I have seen the understanding of the school in the early days of the grassroots basically no school buildings, no teachers, no economic
Fees, many schools are playing karate, more than 20 years later, there are a lot of schools no longer, there are a lot of schools to grow, growing very quickly, why? I'm thinking that private schools are daring to bend the road, because they dare to bend the road so they overtake. We talk about the characteristics of education, these years, especially
is 2020 after the promulgation of the national program, our schools throughout China are talking about the development of characteristics, but the characteristics of the development of the earliest who started, I think it should be the private education, I don't know if you have any memory of the early 1990s, the private school school's name is the most foreign languages and real
experiment, because of the early stage of reform and opening up, foreign languages is definitely a feature, the experiment is also a feature, the experimental is also a feature, and the private schools are the most popular. The foreign language is definitely a specialty, and the experiment is also a specialty. Private schools have to survive in the cracks from the very beginning, and they have to go their own way, and they can't follow the things that public schools do. Small class size, now people have money, the demand has increased, but many
private schools started by small class size, including the flat management now said. Private schools have no way to raise six or seven principals, is one or two principals, and even some schools is a principal, no other principal, very few departments, the vitality of education tapped out
I think the private schools to this day, if there is no advantage of the teachers, or even policy advantages, our private schools in a long time is left to fend for themselves, and in these years There has been an improvement, entirely by taking a detour to overtake, to stimulate their ground through reform and innovation
Education vitality, so that we can see the education of another path of growth.
Lu Zhiwen:
I came to listen to the meeting today, was caught up, my sign is handwritten, I want to collect, now handwritten than printed are precious.
Zhang Zhuoyu:
Principal Li Xigui is the guest of honor at this event land because of school matters did not come, thank you to President Lu to participate in the event.
Lu Zhiwen:
One tube is dead, one release is chaotic, live and die between the tube and release, all people want to live, but the leaders are afraid of chaos, this contradiction can not find the right way. We are exploring this issue today is of interest to everyone. I think how to seek a balance between the chaos management, live without chaos, management without
death. This is what we have been thinking about for a long time, not to mention the country's macro-policy, even a very small unit, in fact, also have to face this problem. We all want to live, we do not want chaos, but without a certain degree of chaos, it is impossible to live. How to grasp this degree? In fact, people
already have a strategy, only we did not put it distinctly, we follow this path. For example, the floor plus creation, is to solve the management and chaos of this pair of contradictions of a strategy. Bottom plus create, is a stable and efficient bottom strategy, and create a development strategy across
a combination, if you look at the macro, China's education bottom who to guard, create to complete I think there should be a division of labor, bottom rely on the government, prosperity rely on the market. The public sector to protect the bottom line, promote balance less fair to lay the foundation, reduce the demand for selective schools. The private sector promotes prosperity, looking for differences, individuality, and
creation, to meet the demand for selective schools. Will be able to realize the bottom line has to guard, create unlimited, which has been more and more people recognize, Zinting we explore the topic of vitality still feel very luxury, not enough vitality in the field of education is the main contradiction. The factors that bind the liberation of productivity in education in the end
Which, I think there should be three levels. The first is thought and concept, if education is alive, first of all should be thought alive, should be the concept of life, so this in this there is a problem of ideological emancipation. The economic field has long been proved, today said the construction of a harmonious society, how harmonious
, satisfied with the harmony, how satisfied with the choice of satisfaction, how to choose, supply enough to be able to choose, how to supply enough, the result of the prosperity of the development of the supply of adequate, prosperous development of the prerequisite for the opening up of which field is open to which area is more to get, the emancipation of ideas to bring about an open
open situation, open situation to bring about prosperity and the development of the economy. The situation, the openness of the situation brings prosperity and development, the prosperity of the development of the supply of adequate supply, the supply of adequate supply to bring the increase of choice, the increase of choice to bring the increase of satisfaction, it is such a simple reason. Today's education, why is still full of strips, I think 30
years ago in the planned economy, we have experienced, there are strips of the times are not enough supply of the times, today both to spend money but also to do the grandchildren, the people will not be satisfied, the vitality comes from the liberation of the mind, the education of first of all from the liberation of the mind, the morning said the topic of this topic, colleges and universities
with the government's money to be Accept government control, this is great, where does that money come from? The people to give, the government is supposed to accept the people's tube, the government to give you money to accept the government's tube, the people amount of your money can not accept the people's tube, this straightened out is through.
Secondly, the mechanism is alive, the system is the structure, the structure is very important, the market economy to bring China's economic field of takeoff, education leadership in the takeoff, but also to introduce some mechanism, I think there should be a has been in, this mechanism is the market mechanism. This kind of mechanism in will have to promote
Promotion.
The third live I think should be the method live, the way to live, which is actually technology live and innovation live, to let a variety of things that can liberate the productive forces are released, but today I see that the school is one of the most exclusionary technological innovation unit, individual teachers in accordance with the reasoning should be the idea of the most solution
Leave the, but to tell the truth, the era of the knowledge economy, I observed down, the teacher is still really are not a group that loves to learn, and that's problematic because there's no mechanism to facilitate that, so why embrace technological advances? Because technological progress can liberate what force, but
Why are we blind to the liberation of productive forces, not willing to use, because the liberation of not liberation of productive forces and I have nothing to do with, so there is no motivation. Therefore, the birth of the vitality of education, must be the liberation of ideas, institutional innovation, scientific and technological progress, the combined effect of the
results.
Zhu Yongxin:
You can see that it is right to ask Lu Zhiwen to come, originally to let him take my place, I have already arrived in the morning, Mr. Xigui can not come because of something, so he took his place. Originally, Mr. Lu was on a flight this afternoon and changed it to an evening flight, and it would be two o'clock in the evening when he arrived at his destination. Why did you choose him,
Because of the vitality there is no private school speaker to talk about what vitality? He can show up and talk to us and share with us, and he is very successful, ran a number of private school principal, he has more than ten private schools below, there is a public conversion school, a new type of trusteeship school
schools, there are their own founding of the private school, is the principal of the eleven private schools, and run a successful one, run a live one, he should be an expert in private education.
We are discussing today's vitality is more of a mechanism to look at the system, I think we can look at three levels, the first is the social participation in education channel is not smooth, there is no vitality. Secondly, the local education administration, or local government has no creativity, no power to carry out
Education change, the school has no autonomy, there is no action in education, I think it is the three levels, the social point of view, I think there is vitality of education should be the social elite, the society of the intellectual resources, talent resources and a large number of influxes, the social funds a large number of influxes to the education
Flow, quite frankly, is a very important part of the education system.
Flow, frankly speaking, the road is not very smooth. For example, social capital, just said our Chinese private education is the vast majority of the snowball rolled out of the fall, rather than private capital, look at Wanren University did not invest much money at the beginning, unlike Hong Kong Running University at once
dozens of billions of dollars, ten years to run a famous university, they can do, we do not have, we have money into not, Cao Dewang take a lot of money to do fund but can not engage in education, Yu Minhong listed companies can not run a school, so can only cooperate with others secondary schools. He said it is best to give
a famous university, you can fight with Peking University and Tsinghua University. China's school requirements are very strict, such as 500 acres of land, less acres can not. Hong Kong is a lot of just one floor can run a university, why do you need 500 acres of land? University has a variety of possibilities, have to be 500 acres of land, China's land grant is how
difficult, do not want to take it can be taken. That screws it up.
It is not allowed to run a bachelor's degree first, it must be the beginning of the college, college graduates after three years of argument before you can apply to run a bachelor's degree, bachelor's degree after three years of graduates and then after the consent of the master's degree can be recruited, master's degree points to be approved one by one, master's degree after the doctoral degree, there is no 20 years can not be done. If
doing university dozens of billions of dollars to come in to do first-class universities, there are no conditions, I think we should develop standards, what kind of people what kind of resources and funds can do doctoral degrees, direct approval on the line, the world's Nobel Prize winners to invite some of them, the world's elite talent to invite, why
cannot be done than the Peking University and Tsinghua University cattle school, I think it is completely possible! . China's private capital a large number of speculation, a large number of other is not to the education to come, not want to come but can not come in. My idea must believe in a manufacturing a letter of private capital and private wisdom
The way to enter the education, including the excellent talent do not love to education, this is the social level of the problem.
The second is the local, because China is a vast country, too big, the gap between my region is far beyond our imagination, this gap between the region creates an education can not be guided by a policy of all the education of the country, the country has something can be done with a
policy, such as the basic talent cultivation requirements, as a Chinese person, as a Chinese citizen, there is a basic quality, this country can be regulated. But how to do education, how to do education, the local enthusiasm mobilized, the eight immortals over the sea, each show their skills, with a
a standard bundled up dead education must not be dynamic. Adaptation to local conditions should be the basic value and guiding principle of our national public *** education policy. Some people say that Beijing opera into the campus, the north can listen to five understand, Guangzhou can be Cantonese opera, Suzhou can be Kunqu opera, to leave the space to the local.
And the withdrawal of schools, we have taken a lot of detours, tiny schools is a very good aspect, in the context of the emphasis on big industry has overemphasized the size of the school, tens of thousands of people in the school can not have a personality, the smaller the more dynamic, the more selective.
We talk about one unification is dead, one liberalization is chaos, we are either a swarm or one size fits all, it is difficult to have a public **** exchange. Of course Shanxi and Shandong have explored a lot of education reform, but they are still dancing in shackles, albeit brilliantly. It's about bringing local initiative into play, and taking
local initiative away won't work.
How can the vitality of the school to open up, we know that the school to the end by the principal, the principal is the king of a school, the campus can make a difference, but to give the right ability to space, can not be managed to death, and now more than the principal to say that there is no room for very much want to reform, but
University inside the light of the system of political theory courses, which accounted for almost a large space, professional courses are also no way to open up a space, and the professional courses are also no way to open up a space. To have vitality, the first is to give the community, the second to the local, and finally to give the school more rights, space and freedom, they will certainly want to live more ideas and wisdom, bursting with more
energy, more vitality.
Zhang Zhuoyu:
Thank you for the three, on this topic briefly talked about their main points, I think everyone here is interested in this topic, there will be a lot of questions you want to ask, in a moment please be ready to ask questions. I'll start as the first questioner, just now talking about loosening the reins to public schools, can
Can you be a little more specific about this topic.
How to energize China's education
Fang Zhanhua:
I think that two shackles tie the schools to death, one is the role of administration, academic testing. The second is the curriculum standards.
No objection to the curriculum to have standards, but the current curriculum standards have a great misguided, recently read the material, the U.S. standards, but also in the standards, I see that that standard and our standard is completely different, is to cultivate students' curiosity, cultivate students' spirit of cooperation, I
Our standard is a standard of knowledge, and we are in order to impose this standard of knowledge to the discipline that impose on education.
I'll give you an example, there is a point of knowledge in the first grade of elementary school called before and after people tell me that sixth-grade students already know, know before and after, but our teachers do not know after an education. Why? Because of the test, left and right a test reflected to the donor surface is confused
, left and right is reversed, our children in first grade to understand the front and back of the left and right of the abstract spatial concepts, our students about when, people said to the tenth grade, we have a lot of curriculum standards, including what time minutes and seconds, sixth grade when two minutes to solve the problem, but we
To teach a class, but not good enough to teach. But it's still not taught well. This is caused by standardization, the one-two-three-four-five-six knowledge that students must master.
Our administration has a standardized test once a year, tied to rankings, tied to the principal's position, tied to very little. Teachers then must follow the curriculum standards on the content, to go over and over the drill, in order to meet the administration of the unified test, in order to meet the so-called school honor. Therefore, the school simply does not have
their own independent space, or our space is very narrow, so our school's school characteristics how to come? Our school to take a detour how to go? So our schools want to engage in major reforms, especially deep reforms, not the original plus or minus, tinkering
Reform, how to change?
We came across a school with a sense of modern education, many problems, engaged in a net mode, morning classes, afternoon activities, how to complete the national curriculum, the Ministry of Education regulations to open the national curriculum, our Academy of Sciences, we jointly issued a document, to engage in a few similar to the Shenzhen Special Administrative Region
the same, the incubation base school, can break through the current administrative norms, can not open the foot of the national curriculum, to give him a death warrant. The National Curriculum, to give him a get-out-of-jail-free card. Dry to now five years, no parental complaints, we re-attribute the problem of school management, two major problems, the first is that the norms are more important than innovation, we have too many
norms, too many rules, alone do not talk about innovation, the results are greater than the process, the results of the examination on how many points, ranked first, to this line of work to reward the process, we rarely pay attention to.
Zhang Zhuoyu:
Just now Dean Lu talked about the opportunity to educate the vitality of the ideological live, mechanism live, innovation live, mechanism live talk a little more specific.
Zhang Zhuoyu:
Thank you very much, the following exchange with President Zhu, just now changed to education vitality of the three points of view, one of which is to the participation of social resources, and another is the vitality of the local government, as well as the increase in the autonomy of the school, these issues have to be reformed by the government, decentralization, unbundling, so that the social resources can be
enough to enter the education, the local government is more proactive initiative and more autonomy for schools, these are things that need to be done by the government. Now, to put it another way, what can the Forum of Thirty Chinese Educationists, as an academic organization, as a civil society, do to activate China's education?
Zhu Yongxin:
Vitality, the vitality of thought is a prerequisite, some people say that education is the last bastion of the planned economy, the implication is that education is still a lack of vitality, education in the emancipation of the mind is still not enough, a very important issue, we lack the collision of ideas, education is a relatively closed a field, everyone can
to see us all day long to hear the Beijing Opera scholars go around speaking their minds. Beijing opera scholars everywhere to speak their views, whether it is the stock market, finance, business, we can see in any newspaper. But hardly ever do we see educators expressing their views in the newspapers, and I am counting the ones who express their views more.
Education in general
Educationists, our guests usually do not hear their voices, not that they do not have ideas, there are two problems, one is that the education is relatively closed, the education of the closed door to say their own words, our forum invited Mr. Qian Yingyi, Mr. Zhou Guoping humanities scholars such as cross-border
To produce the sparks of thought, in order to provide wisdom for the education of wisdom often
Wisdom is often a collision, and even cross-pollination, the wisdom of the world. is collision, and even the process of cross-pollination discussed, at the same time there is such a platform, often get together, it is rare for us people to meet together to talk, our teachers are basically in the study inside
They do their own research, academic journals inside the academic opinion, write their own books, their words rarely get to the sky and the book of the ground, the sky is to become the country's decision-making, and into the ground is to be able to really become the philosophy of the people. can really become the philosophy of the people.
I think China's education needs to think of a big discussion, the need for all people really know what is a good education, now the whole society is very concerned about education, the whole society is all the treasure on the child, but how many people really know how to be able to train the child to become a good person
, how to be able to really do a good education, in fact, there is not a **** knowledge I've always said that a philosophy of educational reform is needed. I have always said that we need a philosophy of education reform, the ideological basis of education reform, the mass base. Now the reform is not difficult at the top, the reasoning, you can go to do, boldly do, there are times
when listening to one side of the word to do, after doing so, found that it is not right, the experts speak head to head, it seems to be the pass, to do it down to find out a lot of problems. The morning of Mr. Xu talked about hitting eight targets seven targets, the development of policy is good, but flawed, otherwise should hit ten targets, these
defects can be avoided, we have walked the road, most foreign countries have walked, but our national conditions are different, China's national conditions are the world's only if we have a little bit more exchanges, a little bit more collision, a little bit more exchange of ideas, we *** with the sharing, people Education people to do, not
is the people to take money to do, but the wisdom of the mind to contribute to the reserves, so that education is hopeful, our forum is to provide such a stage, so that more people to make suggestions, a variety of pipeline, Tang Min is the State Council Counselor, you can give the State Council leadership to raise the views of the Democratic Party and the responsible
responsible person, you can participate in the political arena through their pipeline through the respective The path to collect and reflect everyone's opinions, and provide advice for decision-making as much as possible. We are not a strict organization, is a platform of ideas, to give you high six, we are positive energy, for the government
Government to solve the problem of sharing, the responsibility of our democratic party is for the ruling party to help, for the country to do their duty, for the people to serve. That's what we are doing at the Thirty Forum, coming up with good ideas for our country and working to make education better.
Lu Zhiwen:
Guest: Thank you teacher, in the morning when I started to raise my hand, until now, I went to the front to show that as long as you do it will certainly be able to achieve, on what I do, I now do education, but also seriously consider this matter, as long as you do it will certainly be able to do well. Just now the teacher talked about the exquisite
egoism, I am a fresh graduate, I would like to say that I do not want to be part of the problem, I want to be part of the solution. We are now doing education, which is a combination of education for minors and education for adults, because we believe that education for minors is a feedback to education for adults
Through our practice, through theoretical study, including some articles by teachers, we now believe more and more firmly. Now we have some activities and programs, say it is a problem is actually a request for help, because when we talk to the leaders, teachers, including principals, including the media about this
situation, they all say your idea is good, you think clearly, but you did not let me hear it. What kind of logic is that. And then it's saying that your practice isn't enough to support your ideas.
If you give me another ten years, twenty years, I'm sure the ability to support, but now we are in the entrepreneurial, in the stage of innovation, the so-called innovation is not to know the situation but also confidence slowly to do, but also to lead a group of people confidence slowly to do, we are now encountering the problem is in the hope of
get some practice opportunities, this is not the case. Why do we want to do this thing, the teacher to do the forum I am very excited, the teacher advocates innovation and vitality, just after Mr. Lu said the teachers may go back to do their own academic research, we go back in
doing practical projects, and then talk to the teacher, the principal and the leadership of the time, we will say that you are in the innovation, but you have this idea is very good, but you do not have to go to do, or that we dare not go to do. Or we are afraid to do it, how should we face such a problem.
Lu Zhiwen: we are all over this way, I think it is right, when you do not even have the courage to do this is the most sad, it is because we have the courage to do this, I do not know whether it can be realized, the practice of bumping into the wall, we are still courageous to put forward the idea of the community to have vitality. Not
To be afraid of rejection, I think if people push you out from the door, you have to have the courage to climb back from the window, insist on this on the line, there is a saying that looking for that is to find the see, snap the door that is to open the door.
Zhu Yongxin:
Guest: Please ask President Zhu's question, stimulate the vitality of education reform and development of local governments to be active, higher education law and many other laws have constraints and barriers, some local governments have broken through the barriers, play a positive role, we founded the Sino-foreign cooperative universities, to us
open up the development of the space, stimulate the vitality of the please you! talk about what you think about our promotion of dynamic universities?
Zhu Yongxin: The founding of the forum is the result of everyone's efforts, our secretary-general and the team of volunteers have done a lot of work, put applause a Mr. Ma Guochuan and his team, Chinese-foreign cooperative university is certainly worth encouraging, support, the direction of the exploration, at that time, I was in Suzhou in charge of education
vice mayor of Suzhou, it is very difficult to break through the higher education law of some of the limitations, but There is no doubt that this is a relatively fast way to run the economy to run the enterprise to introduce foreign capital, run the education why can not introduce foreign intelligence, foreign capital and foreign intelligence is equally important to attract foreign intellectual resources
Source is more valuable than attracting capital, we say that the Chinese people are not poor, poor is the head, poor is the wisdom and ideas. Just now Zhiwen introduced the reality he saw in Doha, I think we should encourage, under the framework of our laws to attract more world-class universities, and even first-class people
Talent to start a new university this is certainly an important direction, and now the mouth of our policy more and more open the wider the possibilities will be more and more and not necessarily completely world-renowned universities, there are many well-known universities are Bite the bullet, not out, can faculties over, disciplines over
, talent over. There are some people come to run a school to give financial support, foreign not the principal, to here can be the principal, to have government support, such as tax and funding support to give support, the introduction of more policies, the next round of education to have a big development, just like the economy to introduce foreign
resources, now the millions of projects to attract returnees back to the sea can bring a lot of resources, and at the same time to attract the international famous scientific research institutions, famous universities to China to develop, to find opportunities. I believe this will have a breakthrough.
Fang Zhanhua:
Guests: First of all, thank you for the wonderful speeches of the experts, I have two questions, just now Dean Fang and President Lu mentioned an aspect of the problem, Dean Fang mentioned the work of the quality inspection, this work is very valuable. President Lu mentioned school forgery, these two years there are a lot of big forgery
phenomenon, led to the elementary school students from childhood in the forgery, my words is to say that teaching children to lie is more shameful than a crime, but the ordinary phenomenon, the government should do?
This year is 2014, 100 years ago, 1914, did a period of time to 1915, we know is the time of the beginning of the New Culture Movement, is Chen Duxiu in Shanghai to found a youth magazine, and later is the new youth, such ideological emancipation affected China's centuries of education, the Republican period of the development of education
, and that movement is closely related to the question that I would like to ask is how my forum today has affected China in the century?
Fang Zhanhua: just mentioned the problem of co-ordination, I feel that forgery is not too serious, even if there is not too serious, the problem lies in the requirements of the students to master the orientation of the problem, the test 99 points is not necessarily better than 88 points, mastery of knowledge of students is not necessarily better than the students who do not master the knowledge of the
good, education to drive the students to the only point and the theory of the road of education is narrowing the road of education this is the problem. The problem is.
Fang Zhanhua:
Guest: There are too many examples of writing answers on the blackboard.
Fang Zhanhua: I think with the rule of law this problem will soon be solved.
Lu Zhiwen:
I responded to the gradual rule of law, the perfect society these factors will gradually become less, as the education to have higher standards and requirements, I am more sensitive to the education system on the classification, or we should be less benign in the education, better to do. We through the examination of double base instead of examining the academic
Science, there has been a great error, if a good test can also be, the problem is that the examination of the double base of the examination is so the examination, the examination of knowledge, the examination of skills, the examination of knowledge more when the examination of the teacher technology, the examination of skills more examination of the skills. The problem is, a good rote memorization, more back more palm
Grip points can go up, practice makes perfect, more questions can go up, originally on the quality of the last became on the score. Scores than the quality of the tube, so only care about the score, quality education has become two skins, we do not want to test the quality of the child, but the examination basis is relatively backward
We want to do can not be done, we need to do this piece of effort, how to focus and the past examination is a state monopoly, the power of the civil society, the power of the community will not be able to focus on the direction of this piece of progress, the third-party examination and evaluation today, or reform. Today, the third-party examination evaluation, or reform, may open a good
road, these can be gradually resolved, I am still confident about the future.
Zhang Zhuoyu:
There are still many people who want to ask questions, very good, our topic today is to lead off everyone's thinking, I finally summarize the discussion of our board in one sentence, I think that up to now, many experts of the thirty-person forum are present, the audience still have such a passion, and there are still many people who want to raise their hands
Hands to ask a question as long as there is a guest of honor in the room. As long as there is the participation of the guests here, focus on the discussion, China's education will be full of vitality. Thank you all.