Which is more influential internationally, Alibaba or Huawei?

In fact, for Huawei and Alibaba, these two companies as the hardware industry as well as the software industry's head manufacturers, in the international influence is very big, we know that Alibaba due to Jack Ma's self-traffic in the world, the reputation is particularly wide, of course, Huawei is not bad, because as the giant of the communications industry, is a lot of countries in the field of communications program solution provider.

We know that Alibaba, as an e-commerce company, because of Ma Yun's personal charisma as well as strategic vision, brought together many elites, in the grassroots era, Ma Yun has already planned for the future, which is quite a feeling of Kong Ming Lung in the pair, it seems that Ma Yun in the very early days already know what will happen to Alibaba today.

This is amazing, and after Alibaba entered the e-commerce industry, facing the international giant ebay's strong blocking, and did not lose the battle, but instead, the unbeatable ebay out of China, and since then, Jack Ma became famous, and Alibaba also became famous in one battle.

So nowadays look at Alibaba's business empire is really too huge, based on e-commerce, radiation perimeter, now its business map has been very huge, at the same time, there is Alipay the unlisted super giant, for Ali, in the domestic e-commerce world and mobile payment and finance, almost no rivals, Tencent's WeChat payment, although it has created a lot of trouble, but Essentially, Alipay is indeed alone.

Let's talk about Huawei, people were poor, carrying a huge debt of 2 million, was removed from the company, while the family several mouths crowded in a broken house, and borrowed money, founded Huawei, well in that difficult years, Ren Zhengfei and Jack Ma as much as the foretelling of the future, he said to Huawei's brothers, the field of the future communications industry, Huawei must be 1/3.

Suddenly found that great people have the same thing. And Huawei from a small switch began to compete with international giants, to become a giant in the field of communications industry, the owner of 5G technology, it is difficult to imagine a private company can have such a great achievement, after all, the whole of China in many areas of the lack of core technology, but Huawei now has exactly the core technology in the field of communications.

Huawei in the basic field of communications work, but also do a handful of mobile terminals Huawei cell phone, but did not expect Huawei cell phone carrying this brand glory, become the absolute dominant domestic, in the global sales also ranked second, and now even has its own core chip, Kirin processor.

Alibaba and Huawei in the country belong to the absolute hegemony!

We all know that the Internet industry compared to the traditional industry is indeed a great advantage, because it does not belong to the asset-heavy model, often a week's idea, a fun APP can be spread across the border.

Then it is clear that Alibaba, as an Internet giant, does have an advantage over Huawei, which is doing the traditional communications industry, as if what Huawei is doing in the communications industry is behind the scenes, while Alibaba is doing the work in front of the stage.

Plus we know that Jack Ma, a huge amount of traffic, Alibaba reputation has long been spread all over the world. Especially when it beat the unbeatable ebay, let let Alibaba in the whole Internet world fame.

Now coupled with Alibaba's overseas policy, such as Alipay foreign called ALIpay, as well as the global overseas purchase double 11 and so on some of the policy stimulus, so that Alibaba's fame at home and abroad is very big.

This point Huawei is at a disadvantage, because Huawei belongs to the communication base station, generally speaking to the telecom companies to deal with, Ea ordinary users contact Huawei is also only through Huawei's cell phone terminal, but obviously Huawei's influence overseas is far like in the local such, so that Huawei's popularity overseas may also be limited to industry insiders.

Just finished talking about Tencent and then talk about Ali. What other Chinese company in this world is currently more influential than Huawei? Obviously there isn't. So the answer to this question, there is no doubt that Huawei is much more influential than Alibaba

The United States is undoubtedly the most powerful country on the planet, with the United States so powerful national power, history, there is no U.S. to unite other countries in a large-scale global blow to a private enterprise? Obviously very few, and we have not seen our foreign ministry spokesman frequently for a Chinese company to speak out and the United States hard line, so Huawei in the 5G thing has risen to the near-national level of tit for tat, on this aspect of the impact of the founding of the country have not been able to exceed Huawei's, although Huawei itself does not like this kind of impact

For Ali, the impact of Ali is only limited to the domestic. In the country, Huawei has not been involved in the terminal field before, always low-profile style, while Ali is always high-profile style. The network of Ma Yun's high level of speech everywhere, Ma boss to the people of the country to bring countless opportunities to get rich, Ali's powerful propaganda machine so that Alibaba has some achievements are bound to publicize the well-known, relative to other domestic Internet companies, can be more than Ali high-profile only hammer.

And Huawei's Ren Zhengfei, before the 5G accident, the chances of showing up are few and far between very mysterious. For example, most of our network set-top boxes or smart cameras with Huawei Haisi chips, Huawei's wireless and wired communications have long occupied half of our country, these Huawei are more low-key, rarely publicized.

The author believes that, in addition to the terminal Huawei's low profile is because Huawei is still mainly industrial, and Alibaba's high-profile is to earn more money in the virtual economy. As an example, Internet finance is almost Ma Yun high-profile contributed to, due to only speak of finance does not speak of risk, the results of ants gold service Alipay earn a pot full, now leaving a chicken feather no one cleaned

Ali's influence overseas is far worse than Huawei, the main reason is that Ali due to the main business and no irreplaceable core competitiveness, at the same time, Ali's competitors in foreign countries are very mature, and once you leave the The Chinese government supports this soil, Ali is accepted by foreign users is not high. And foreign worship is Microsoft, Google, Tesla, Facebook squatting in Silicon Valley real technology leading innovation enterprises, Ma Yun's marketing nature of the high-profile quotes in foreign countries is not appetizing.

Enterprises with significant international influence, excluding the addition of sales scale, are necessarily high-tech enterprises, that is, enterprises that really have bones and can really fight.

Then let's compare Huawei and Ali with specific numbers. First of all, from the world's top 500 to compare, Huawei ranked 72, Alibaba ranked 300, Huawei is much higher than Ali

From the point of view of R & D investment, Huawei's R & D investment is ranked in the world's top five, and the R & D investment in 2018 is close to 100 billion yuan, which is three times as much as Alibaba. But this also has to do with Huawei focusing on a wider range of areas than Alibaba, whose R&D investment in China is still very much to be admired

Comparing the scope of their respective fields, we don't count Huawei's basic communications and Ali's shopping platforms, which are areas that don't intersect with each other. We compare the two companies in the next generation of Internet technology, including artificial intelligence, cloud, Internet of Things, 5G applications

Artificial intelligence capabilities, Huawei is far more than Alibaba, thanks to Huawei's AI chip ranked twelfth in the world (the only Chinese company on the list), Huawei in the consumer, communications and other AI end-to-end industry chain of heritage

Huawei is much higher than Alibaba

Huawei is also the first company in the world to be ranked twelfth in the world, the only Chinese company on the list of AI chips. Far higher than Alibaba

From the point of view of the public cloud, Alibaba Cloud is the domestic deserved NO.1, the strength of the world's top three is also hard power, and Huawei Cloud is not even ranked in the domestic top five. But Huawei cloud computing in the global influence I think is greater than Ali, mainly because Ali cloud benefit from the Chinese market, and Huawei cloud market, although not as good as Ali, but based on the ARM self-research Kunpeng chip cloud servers in the country is also the only localized servers, Huawei servers ranked in the top 5 of the global shipments, Ali has no server self-research capabilities for the time being.

From the Internet of Things (IoT), Huawei is a global mainstream player in the industrial IoT, and a major leader in the NB IOT standard. Although Huawei is just starting out like Ali, it is also the supplier of chips for many home IoT devices in China, which means that Huawei has what Ali has, and Huawei has what Ali doesn't have

From the point of view of the application technology of 5G, 5G and the application technology of 5G (e.g., unmanned vehicle, telemedicine) basically has nothing to do with Alibaba, and Ali has no layout of 5G. In To C and To B related heritage, so Alibaba here certainly lost

So it is clear that Ali's technical heritage in addition to the Ali cloud, and Huawei is far from. That's not counting Huawei's hard power of being in the top three in the world across the board in basic communication areas such as digital communications and wireless, nor is it counting Huawei's global reach in the mobile terminal field. Therefore, Ali's influence in the international community is obviously far worse than Huawei, but Ali's marketing ability and Ma's speech ability is far more than Huawei

The reason why Huawei has such a large international influence is because Huawei in the field of involvement in the competitiveness of the core hardware and software to achieve the global leadership. On the contrary, Alibaba currently see, in addition to cloud computing has this ability, other areas are inferior to Huawei.

Both are good companies in China, and I hope that Huawei will continue to move forward, and Alibaba will be able to put its feet on the ground and add more fuel in other areas.

To be honest, comparing the influence of Huawei and Alibaba together is like comparing scientists with actors and athletes. Even Mrs. Curie may not be as good as Shirley Temple or Kobe Bryant. The first time I've seen this, I've seen it, and I've seen it, and I've seen it. Even Mrs. Curie may not be as influential as Shirley Temple or Kobe Bryant, not to mention scientists in general.

We don't think Alibaba has no technology content, and the Internet itself is a product of the development of science and technology to a certain stage. But thanks to the popularity of e-commerce and Jack Ma's skill at building momentum, Alibaba's international reach is certainly stronger than Huawei's. Not to mention the fact that the e-commerce industry has become more popular than Huawei. Not to mention, just one piece of e-commerce is enough to make most people around the world know about Alibaba. Plus Ma's actor's stunts, how can Huawei go with Alibaba than the influence of it?

However, from the international influence of China's economy and the future needs of economic development, especially the attention of developed countries, Alibaba how can not be compared with Huawei, can not think of its influence will exceed Huawei. Otherwise, why does the United States not restrict Alibaba, but desperately trying to prevent Huawei from entering. Not only that, but also encourage other countries to stop Huawei together? Is not because Huawei is too strong Huawei has too much international influence?

So don't associate the Nobel Prize with the Oscars, especially the Miss Universe election, it's not comparable, and it's not good.

Ali and Huawei belong to two different fields, both in their respective fields in the international have a certain degree of visibility and influence, but to say which in the international more influential, that is certainly Huawei. However, Jack Ma should be more influential than Ren Zhengfei in the international arena.

Although Alibaba is also actively carrying out the development of internationalization strategy, but in the international business layout as well as international business with Huawei is still a large gap, in this is not to chase Huawei, but can be compared through the first off the data to be derived.

In 2018, the global brand consulting company "Interbrand" announced the 2018 global best brand list TOP100, in which Huawei is the only Chinese company selected brand 100, ranked 68th in the world, which is Huawei for five consecutive years in the list. And Alibaba did not make the list.

In February 2019 global WPP and Cato released the "2019 BrandZ?Top 50 Chinese Brands Going Overseas Report" in Beijing, among the top 50 Chinese brands going overseas, Huawei's brand power score is 1,862, ranking first, and Alibaba's brand power score is 1,624, ranking third.

According to Huawei's 2018 financial report, Huawei's China revenue in 2018 was 372.2 billion yuan, accounting for 51.6%; EMEA revenue was 204.5 billion yuan, accounting for 28.4%; Asia-Pacific revenue was 81.9 billion yuan, accounting for 11.4%; and Americas revenue was 47.9 billion yuan, accounting for 6.6%. That means almost half of Huawei's revenue comes from international markets.

Alibaba's international business, on the other hand, accounts for a relatively small percentage. Alibaba's annual report for fiscal year 2019 has not yet been released, but according to the financial data of the first quarter of 2018, the revenue of Alibaba's international retail business in the quarter amounted to 4.316 billion yuan, a year-on-year increase of 64%, and the international revenue accounted for 11%. This is still quite a gap with Huawei's international business accounting for about 50 percent.

In recent years, Alibaba has also been vigorously laying out its international business, such as investing billions of dollars by investing in Lazada, Alibaba further locked up 600 million consumers in Southeast Asia, including Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia, Thailand, Vietnam and the Philippines; invested in the Indian retail e-commerce business of BigBasket and Snapdeal, and acquired a mobile payment Paytm; acquired Trendyol, the largest and fastest-growing mobile e-commerce platform in the Middle East, with more than 2,000 merchants and 16 million users, for $750 million; launched a special South American line covering 200 million consumers jointly by Caijiao Logistics and Speedway; and built the first eWTP pilot in Africa in Rwanda to help small and medium-sized enterprises (SMEs) in Africa, and so on. Currently Alibaba has roughly 100 million global users.

But while Alibaba's internationalization has only begun in the last few years, Huawei's internationalization began a long time ago, and Huawei's carrier business and consumer businesses like cell phones now have a large share of the global market.

For example, many countries' operators are using Huawei's base stations, and Huawei's cell phone sales have been even more impressive in recent years, with Huawei's cell phone sales ranked third in the world, and Huawei's cell phones being used by residents of many countries, with conservative estimates suggesting that Huawei's products directly and indirectly affect at least three billion people around the world.

As of the end of 2018, Huawei has set up 22 regional departments, more than 100 branches, and 36 training centers overseas.

Currently Huawei has 188,000 employees, with operations in more than 170 countries and regions, serving more than 3 billion people. Among the 188,000 employees, the proportion of foreign employees is about 20%, equivalent to about 40,000 people. In addition, Huawei also has a "Seeds of the Future" program, which has sowed the seeds of hope in 108 countries and regions, such as more than 4,700 outstanding college students from all over the world came to visit Huawei headquarters in 2018 to study, these people will directly or indirectly help Huawei to enhance its international influence.

As for how many overseas organizations and employees Alibaba has at present, there is no specific statistical data for the time being, but the proportion should not be too much, because Alibaba is mainly engaged in e-commerce business, and most of its employees and organizations are in China.

Comparatively speaking, at present, Ren Zhengfei is a lot more low-key than Jack Ma, many people may know Huawei, but many people do not know Ren Zhengfei, but this can not hide Ren Zhengfei's excellent leadership.

Huawei's international influence is greater than that of Alibaba, but Jack Ma's is greater than that of Huawei.

But Huawei and Alibaba are the pride of national enterprises and the greatest technology companies in the world, and Ren Zhengfei and Jack Ma are the greatest entrepreneurs in the world, and the most respectable entrepreneurs.

Huawei's business is all over the world, Huawei is now the world's largest telecommunications equipment manufacturer, and is the world's second highest-selling smartphone brand, Huawei has operations in more than 170 countries and regions around the world, and serves more than more than one-third of the world's population.In 2017, Huawei's full-year operating revenue exceeded $600 billion, more than half of which was from the overseas markets.

To date, Huawei has more than 180,000 employees in more than 160 different countries around the world, and the proportion of overseas employees who are local employees exceeds 70%. Huawei owns more than 70,000 industrial patents, half of which are contributed by its overseas subsidiaries.

It's fair to say that Huawei is a genuine international tech giant, with a reasonable revenue structure, a reasonable distribution of consumer and enterprise business, a healthy mix of overseas and domestic revenue, and a lot of industry patents in 5G communications, telecoms equipment, and mobile processors, making it an industry giant in its own right.

Alibaba's current business is still mainly focused on the domestic market, whether it is Taobao, Tmall, Alibaba, or Aliyun, Alipay, in fact, out of the country basically still not much use.

Alibaba's business overseas, basically still stay in the help of foreigners to sell things to the domestic, there is no real realization of the domestic things sold overseas, Alipay is basically foreign merchants in order to facilitate the use of domestic tourists traveling abroad opened, basically very few foreigners use.

But Alibaba is also trying to change the pattern, such as investment in Southeast Asian e-commerce Lazada, investment in India's mobile payment enterprise paytm, etc., are Alibaba in the search for international breakthroughs, the real early realization of the internationalization, but this is with Huawei's real internationalization compared to the gap is still very large.

A set of big data shows that Huawei people in 2017, 2018 the world's air miles in China ranked first, which can show how good Huawei's internationalization, but Huawei's founder Ren Zhengfei is very low-key, basically very few public appearances. I remember I wrote an article about low-key entrepreneurs before, in which Ren Zhengfei is the representative figure of this.

It is important to know that Mr. Ma attends events in various countries, and meets with dignitaries and heads of state of many countries, which is not a treatment that ordinary entrepreneurs can enjoy.

Jack Ma is not the same, Mr. Ma almost everywhere around the world, in fact, Mr. Ma did this for Chinese entrepreneurs is a very favorable thing, equivalent to the endorsement of Chinese enterprises, improve the international visibility of Alibaba, and even more to improve the international visibility of Chinese enterprises.

Mr. Ma is also an advocate of the United Nations and the Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs), a special adviser to the United Nations on youth entrepreneurship and small and medium-sized enterprises (SMEs), and the latest has also assumed the co-chairmanship of the United Nations High-level Group on Digital Cooperation (HLGDC) in three positions, with each position earning an annual salary of US$1, which is still very exciting to think about.

And don't think that Mr. Ma's position is a virtual post, it is to really do things! Mr. Ma in South Africa, Malaysia, South Korea and many other countries, many times for the youth entrepreneurship guidance, speech, and Mr. Ma also advocated Alibaba's public welfare two hours, ants forest, Ali public welfare and many other projects are in the influence of Mr. Ma began to do up.

So overall, Huawei's international influence is greater than Alibaba's, but Jack Ma's international influence is greater than the certification of the non.

Huawei, 17 years Huawei world top 500 ranked 83, Ali world top 500 ranked 462. these two are not a level at all. The most important thing is that Huawei's products can be sold all over the world, Ali is also mixed at home.

Then it is a personal opinion, I think these two companies are not good. These two private companies, as the leading domestic enterprises, blatantly lead the way in violating labor laws. The labor law provides for an 8-hour work week, double holidays, and overtime shall not exceed 8 hours a week. Huawei, Ali, are 996. people Google China, Microsoft China how is 8 hours, double rest? In said you Huawei in the United States, Europe's branch, how do you not let the foreigners honor your 996? So I suggest that it engineers best to go to Google China and Microsoft China. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do this, but I'm sure you'll be able to.

There is no comparability, pure influence is Ali, Ali is like a movie star, households know, Huawei is like China's own scientists! For the people, if it is not Huawei in the past few years to engage in cell phones, many people still do not recognize this company! Many people do not understand that Alibaba is going with the flow, Huawei is against the current! In our circle of communication, Huawei is really a lot of people's God, because of his technology, because of his management, are irreplaceable! Now Taobao ideas are copied from Amazon, WeChat is copied from Facebook, basically most of China's so-called innovation is basically copied, copying plus business model and China's demographic dividend, and also copied the four unlike! At least Amazon is not so fake! Of course, Ali's influence can not be ignored, after all, Ma boss price there, the small people are not good at pointing fingers! There is no black who, did not hold who, different opinions only! And Huawei closed down, the people really do not feel, but China's commercialization of communications technology globalization footsteps at least ten years behind, but Ali closed down, many companies will replace him, and is absolute short time to replace, if you release the restrictions, even Tencent will die! Because Baidu died more than 10,000 times!

Huawei is the leader of the hardware industry, while Alibaba is the leader of the software industry. Both companies have a strong influence at home and abroad. But if you look at the domestic and international influence, Huawei is of course much worse than Alibaba. Because, after all, Huawei is the leader of the communications industry, while Alibaba is sitting at the top of the e-commerce field. People don't know much about the communications industry, while they know everything about the e-commerce sector.

What is so strong about Alibaba? First of all, the e-commerce platform has become a part of people's lives, many people can not buy things away from the online shopping, without leaving home can make to the desired goods. But for Huawei cell phones, people can choose, but also can not use. Moreover, e-commerce also likes to create festivals, not only the domestic people are happy to see, but also to attract overseas netizens to participate in such festivals as Double 11. Therefore, Alibaba's global influence can not be underestimated.

Moreover, Alibaba platform can directly or indirectly provide a lot of jobs, and no one can ignore the existence of Alibaba e-commerce platform. Even U.S. President Donald Trump had to receive Ma Yun, while Ma Yun could immediately promise to solve the employment problem of 1 million people for the United States. Only later, the trade friction between China and the United States, Ma Yun's commitment can only be nullified. Nowadays, the leaders of European countries have to receive Ma Yun, and Ma Yun is also employed by the United Nations. As for Huawei, it only has influence in its own field and its products are easily replaced.

Finally, Alibaba's Jack Ma, in addition to creating trillions of dollars in online transactions each year, also has investments in logistics, takeout, express delivery, finance (including microfinance, opening small loan companies), mobile payments, **** enjoy cycling and other fields. It is no exaggeration to say that Alibaba has long been embedded in the lives of Chinese people. Maybe Alibaba shut down, there are other people on top, but if Ali in all areas are out, then the country's life can not live. Huawei has 25 percent of the global market share and more revenue than the three BAT giants combined, but its influence on the Chinese people is still much worse than Alibaba.

Of course, Huawei's international influence has been on the rise in recent years: on the one hand, countries around the world have taken a keen interest in the company because of the U.S. government's curbs on Huawei's exports of U.S. communications equipment, as well as Huawei's U.S.-based mergers and acquisitions of hi-tech companies. What's more, Huawei's rapid development in the 5G field has stunned European countries. Some European countries have also thrown huge orders to Huawei, while Qualcomm in the United States has lost 5G orders.

On the other hand, as a private technology company, Huawei can make breakthroughs in the field of medium- and high-end chip research and development, which makes the world dare not take lightly the results obtained by China's scientific and technological fields. Huawei developed its core chips as early as 2009, which played a positive role in reducing China's dependence on U.S.-based companies such as Intel and Qualcomm. At present, Huawei in the field of medium and high-end chip research and development in the country is unrivaled. Its influence is also in the process of gradual and rapid rise.

Who says Huawei is irreplaceable domestically and internationally? The company can replace Huawei's company a lot of it. Foreign Cisco Ericsson, domestic ZTE Datang. And in the country, Huawei does not have a monopoly, ZTE Datang still have a small market share it. Internationally, Huawei did not exceed 30% market share. This time the Americans want to engage in Huawei because it has been overbearing inertia does not allow Chinese companies to master the right to speak because of the competitive pressure on the market Cisco. Americans are also afraid of Ali's invasion, and last year Trump did not allow Ant Financial Services to buy a mobile payment company in the United States. Of course, Alibaba can be replaced, but Alibaba's empire is too large, involved in the livelihood of the people's field is too deep and wide, once this kind of platform is replaced, the people will have a transient discomfort. Because you are not sure of the quality of the company's services to replace Tencent or Jingdong. But Huawei once replaced by a competitor you will simply not know, you can rest assured that the network will not be interrupted. That's something that China Telecom China Mobile China Unicom needs to deal with.

Of course it's Huawei. Alibaba is an internet company that provides a service and there are great alternatives. Amazon is the alternative. I can use shopping services under Alibaba, and I can use Amazon to shop online. And it doesn't cost more to use the alternative.

But Huawei is different, it's a hardware company. Hardware products are then exclusive, and you can't use Huawei and another company's products at the same time. For example, between Samsung and Huawei smartphones, consumers can generally only choose one. In the case of similar performance, consumers will naturally choose the lower price. This is the reason why Samsung's cell phone sales growth has been weak in the past few years and Huawei's rapid growth.

Now Huawei's multiple products in the global market share has been in the first place, such as telecom equipment, core routers. 2017 worldwide telecom operators outsourcing market revenue reached 67 billion U.S. dollars, which ranked in the first place in the outsourcing provider or Huawei, accounting for 27%. Core router is the most critical equipment in the communication network, equivalent to the CPU of a computer.In this field, Huawei beat the dominant Cisco in 2017 grade to top the world. In the field of smartphones, Huawei ranked third globally in 2018 in addition to 206 million units.

In terms of overseas recognition and influence, Huawei is far greater than Alibaba. About half of Huawei's operating income comes from overseas, for example, in 2018, Huawei's global cell phone sales of 206 million, of which overseas sales month 87 million, accounting for 42%. And Alibaba's share of overseas revenue accounts for only a quarter, far less than one-half of Huawei's.

Now Huawei has attacked the city in many areas, western competitors in the same industry Nokia, Ericsson, Cisco has been doubly pressured. Even encouraged the government to step in, the introduction of Huawei prohibited measures to establish a "firewall". If not afraid of Huawei's strength, or if Huawei is still this century out of Huawei, the Western giant will be afraid?