Mark Twain once said this. Twain once said, "When you can't make up your mind, tell the truth. It will embarrass your opponents and relieve your friends." Therefore, the point of view of psychologists is: do not easily lie, even if it is a good lie.
We believe that the distinction between things should first be elaborated from the definition of the first, comprehensive KangXi dictionary interpretation, the good faith lie is not factual, say false, falsehood, exaggeration, cover up, distortion of the truth. From the well-intentioned lie phrase structure to start the analysis, it is a partial phrase, the center word is lie, so the well-intentioned lie is essentially a lie. Although the motive of the well-intentioned lies for good intentions, but because of the good intentions itself there is a certain degree of uncertainty, and thus repeatedly by some "professional liars" to take advantage of - this is an indisputable fact. The "lie" itself is dark, the good and bad things are not measured by the purpose of things, the good intention of the lie itself is false. Although it faded away the beggar clothes put on the cheongsam, but still can not get rid of the essence of its lies, and lies mean deception, thus impeding the integrity. The starting point of the lie is good, but often this lie once punctured, the other side of the harm will be deeper, as the lie itself, has been contrary to the integrity of the behavior.
In China **** Central announced the "Citizen Moral Construction Implementation Program" in the proposed 20-word ethical norms, "integrity" is a very important norms, integrity is to seek "true", is the pursuit of justice. The ancients said that "truthfulness" is the most sincere of all. The first time I saw this, it was a very important part of my life, and it was a very important part of my life.
As General Secretary Hu Jintao said in his speech: "The harmonious socialist society we are trying to build should be a society characterized by democracy and the rule of law, fairness and justice, honesty and friendship, vitality, stability and order, and harmony between man and nature."
Through the above multi-faceted analysis, we believe that no matter whether a lie is in a good purpose or not, as a lie will inevitably hinder integrity.
In the whole society are not honest in the environment only you are the only one to speak honesty is at a disadvantage, however, honesty and trustworthiness is the root of being a person, should not be a condition to compare with others. Society is progressing, internationalization is getting closer and closer to us, the kind of fraud to earn the interests of others of the villain will eventually be spurned. Look at it this way, your honesty, your trustworthiness will be trusted by the majority of people, and your path will be wider and wider.
Debate Basis (Example):
The other side of the debate, we believe that people need to talk about honesty, I have a small example here, in 1933, Lao She's friend went to him to ask for a painting of the old man Qibaishi, twenty years later, when Mr. Lao She saw that friend again, took the painting to him, which doesn't show that Mr. Lao She is a promise. What he promised his friend twenty years ago, has he not forgotten twenty years later? So our side still supports that people must be honest and cannot lie.
The good lie, he himself is a lie, he is only faded from the brocade robe, replaced by a stone robe, or a lie, false lie is deception, deception is to hinder the integrity of the, so our side that people must speak honestly, can not lie.
Goodwill lies his motives are good, but he is often used by some professional liars, professional liars he may, I said lies, but may be goodwill lies, this way, a lot of it, he told a lie, he still think he is noble, so I think people still need to talk about honesty, or else once you tell a lie no matter whether it is a goodwill or malice, you may be a good point of view, but there may be someone will take advantage of you! but there is a possibility that someone will use your lie to do something bad.
And as there are more and more well-intentioned lies in life, people's ability to tell the difference between lies will become worse and worse, and once life is full of lies, there is no way to tell which ones are well-intentioned and which ones are malicious.
If you lived in a world full of lies, would you be at ease?
A well-intentioned lie is also a lie, he is like a disease, even if he is not malignant, it is benign, even if he is only a minor disease, can you say he is not a lie? Can you say he is not a disease?
If you say that he draws well, then he will be ridiculed when he goes out, then if you tell him directly that you don't draw well and teach him where to make corrections, then he will avoid some unnecessary embarrassment.
Lies are deceptions, so does the other side want to put a beautiful aura on them? From an objective point of view, can the other apologist say that a lie is not a kind of deception? If it is well-intentioned, why would the other side want to lie? In fact, there are two kinds of lies, one is acute and the other is chronic. An acute lie is one in which a child does not listen carefully in class, and when he comes home, his mother asks him, "You didn't listen carefully in class," and the child says, "I did listen carefully," because he doesn't want to be scolded by his mother, and he also wants to appease his mother so that she won't be sad, and he does so through two points. The chronic lie is to say that when you meet a retarded child, can you say to him you are retarded? Can you say him you're stupid? All you can say is that you're smart, but by saying he's smart, you're slowly dismantling your integrity system.
Please ask the other apologist, can you say that integrity is not a person's moral capital? A philosopher once said that there are two things that can cause a deep shock in our heart, one is the bright starry sky, the other is our human moral code - integrity. It can be seen that integrity is the moral code of man, is the beauty of the human heart, integrity is a major premise, we hold this debate, you can say integrity ......
Respondent: 121.63.193.* 2009-10-19 19:41
Good lies do not impede the integrity
"Lies" are called "lies" because they are false, untrue and deceitful words. If a person often has a lie flow with the mouth, so as to deceive others, over time, he will lose people's trust. Just like the child in the article "the lying child", every day shouting "the wolf is coming" in order to seek excitement, happy, but when the wolf really comes, he only one person to face independently, to bear by himself, no matter how much shouting will not help, and there will be no one to help him again. Because the people who may come to help him have gotten used to his shouting, and thought that he was "teasing you" again, so it can be seen that the lie has impeded the integrity.
But today, when we talk about "lies," there is a qualifier - good faith, and with this qualifier, the nature of the lie is fundamentally changed. "Goodwill lies" are people's good wishes for things, is the people's good heart of the dialog, is the people comfort each other a warmth, is the people's heart out of a kind of tenderness ...... who will not go to the extent of its credibility, even if the The people who hear the kind lies know that it is a lie, but also the same will go to try to believe, will not feel the hypocrisy of the liar, and sometimes have to be grateful from the heart it.
When a terminally ill patient is sentenced to death by a doctor, his parents, loved ones, children, and all of his relatives will not directly tell him: "life can not be saved", "the most can still live in the world for a long time," and so on. These words are true. Although this is the truth, who would be so cruel as to tell the truth to a loved one who is already in pain and suffering, just as a judge would pronounce a death sentence on a prisoner? At this point, everyone will form a united front and keep their mouths shut about the truth, while using well-intentioned lies to make the patient hopeful about the treatment, so that the patient can spend the rest of his or her days in a peaceful state of mind. Could this be a hindrance to honesty!
When a child who does not rhyme with the world suddenly suffers a misfortune and loses his relatives, how to explain to him where his relatives have gone. We think the best way is still: do not tell him the real situation for the time being, just say to a very far away place to go on business, or in the foreign study and work and so on. When the child understands, has a certain ability to bear the time, and then to tell the truth, the child will also understand the relatives of the practice, will not be angry because they did not know the truth. Is it possible that such words also hinder the integrity!
When a soldier who is on a mission in the field of the mother is very sick, hot a breath of time, how much hope to see his son one last time ah, but the son is not able to come back, can not do a little bit of filial piety for the old mother, to take care of once for the son of his mother worried about the mother, he was very apologetic, and also very much in his thoughts. And the old mother is very understanding of the son, told the relatives around him, after he left, do not tell the distant son, can not let him distracted, to say that the condition has been stabilized, so that he can rest assured that he is doing his best for the country. Is such a well-intentioned lie a hindrance to integrity!
So, I insist that: not only does the well-intentioned lie not hinder the integrity, but also will greatly enhance the friendship between people and feelings, social stability also has an indelible role. Suggest that we should use the good intentioned lies, and honesty is not a great conflict.
We know that people in this society, burdened with many obligations, and obligations and obligations sometimes there is a contradiction between, when one obligation overrides the other, to alleviate the other obligation. Therefore, the nature of a good lie is a more urgent and important obligation, and this obligation is to alleviate the obligation of good faith at the cost.
A long time ago, a western philosopher once said: there are only two things in this world that can cause a deep vibration in the human heart: one is the brilliant starry sky above us, and the other is the noble moral code in our hearts - integrity. Obviously, there is nothing more beautiful and innocent than the beauty of the heart, and integrity is precisely one of the manifestations of inner beauty. I think the other students from this is not difficult to see, since it is a lie is in the way of integrity, its utility and benefits gained, but ultimately at the expense of integrity.
Here I would like to ask the other student, when a person in the loss of integrity, his starting point is still good intentions?
Please note that the topic of our debate today is whether a well-intentioned lie impedes integrity, not whether a lie impedes integrity.
First of all, the Modern Chinese Dictionary explains "lie" as an untrue word, which is obviously neutral in sentiment. Lying for different purposes will lead to very different results: one out of self-interest to deceive people with cunning and treacherous means, it is a malicious fraud, which will inevitably lead to the decline of social morality and disorder. The other for the purpose of favoring others to hide the real situation, it is a good faith concealment, will make feelings more harmonious, social harmony. Therefore, the difference between good-faith concealment and bad-faith fraud, from the motive to the result, is too great to be confused. When a poor mother left the only meal for her children, while hiding the fact that she is still hungry, do you still want to accuse the good and noble mother love "dishonest"?
Secondly, what is "honesty"? The first is that it is not a good idea to be honest and trustworthy. The ancients have long advocated "sincerity" and "faith", emphasizing the consistency of words and deeds, unity of knowledge and action; the principle of good faith requires people to consciously abide by the law, sincere and trustworthy. But none of them simplistically requires people to tell the truth 100% of the time. Undifferentiated truth is extremely terrible: in war you can our military intelligence to the enemy to tell the truth? Can you tell your business secrets to your rivals in a shopping mall? Therefore, since the principle of good faith does not mean simplistic 100% truth, then when necessary, good faith concealment will not contradict the principle of good faith.
Thirdly, as a correct and friendly way of dealing with the world, the motive, purpose and result of a good lie are all consistent with "integrity". The significance of promoting honesty in society is to cultivate people's noble moral sentiments, establish mutual trust between people, mutual benefit of benign interaction, and those who are full of mercy and compassionate kind of lies used to make the feelings more harmonious, life is more cozy, society is more harmonious. "The way of the university stops at the highest good", out of the same goodwill, the two are closely harmonized with each other.
First, lies are divided into malicious fraud and good faith concealment depending on the nature of the difference, and the two are not to be confused.
Secondly, "good faith" does not mean 100% truth without specific analysis, under certain circumstances, good faith concealment is not indispensable.
Thirdly, a good-faith lie is consistent with the principle of good faith, from purpose to result.
Therefore, in our opinion: a good faith lie does not impede good faith.
(By:Yu Lu 09/25/09 09:31)
[Positive]:
Hello, moderator and judges!
It is a great pleasure to be here today to give my opinion on the argument of whether good lies are a hindrance to integrity. Here are our views:
The fact that a well-intentioned lie is itself a lie is unquestionable. Lies, lying is cheating, cheating is immoral, immoral things are unpopular, these are playing small teachers and elders have been assiduously taught. But we ask ourselves, and who has not told lies? Whether it is to their loved ones, friends, or do not know each other, there are many kinds of purposes, but when we add a "good intentions" to the lie, as if everyone may accept it, which is precisely the weakness of human nature is the focus of the performance.
Mark Twain once said this. Twain once said, "When you can't make up your mind, tell the truth. It will embarrass your opponents and relieve your friends." Therefore, the view of psychologists is: don't lie easily, even if it's a well-intentioned lie.
(By:Wu Yunhui 09/25/09 09:35)
[Moderator]:
Please post the second defense of the positive side (By:Zhang Xuan 09/25/09 09:35)
[Moderator]:
Please post the second defense of the negative side; (By:Zhang Xuan 09/25/09 09:37)
[Opposite side]: <
When a poor mother leaves her children the only food she has, while hiding the fact that she is still hungry, do you still want to accuse the good and noble mother's love of "dishonesty"? In fact, life everywhere we can see the shadow of a well-intentioned lie, from the comfort of the sick bed with tears to politely reject the polite, from the love of the world's sea to the poet's beautiful exaggeration, but they are not so terrible, so that the other side of the defense talk about "lies" and change. (Author: Jiang Yan 09/25/09 09:41)
[Moderator]:
Please post the third defense; (Author: Zhang Xuan 09/25/09 09:42)
[Positive]:
Moderators and judges, good day to you all!
The second defense of the other side, please note that even if it is a well-intentioned lie, but as a lie itself, it is already an act contrary to integrity, so whether the lie is in a good purpose or not, as a lie itself is bound to impede integrity. Therefore, here I would like to raise my voice, let us reject the well-intentioned lies, *** together to build a society of integrity. (Author:Jiang Wenbing 09/25/09 09:43)
[Moderator]:
Please post the third defense of the opposing side; (Author:Zhang Xuan 09/25/09 09:44)
[Opposing side]:
The other side of the first defense in the exposition, it is pointed out that when a person is faced with two kinds of obligations, when contradicting each other to alleviate the other side of the obligations. But the first argument of the positive side did not argue that good lies and honesty are contradictory ah. How can we directly conclude that a good lie must alleviate the obligation of honesty?
Please note that the other side of the defense has clearly stated that the lie itself should have the function of deception, only malicious lies are out of deception, please do not narrow the concept of "lie".
(Author:ChenYueMing 09/25/09 09:47)
[Moderator]:
Please post the fourth defense; (Author:ZhangXuan 09/25/09 09:47)
[Positive side]:
Please be aware of the fact that there is a big omission in your defense. We believe that the first thing to distinguish between things should start from the definition of elaboration, comprehensive KangXi dictionary interpretation, good faith lies is not factual, say false, falsehood, exaggerate, cover up, distort the truth. From the well-intentioned lie phrase structure to start the analysis, it is a partial phrase, the center word is lie, so the well-intentioned lie is essentially a lie. Although the motive of the well-intentioned lies for good intentions, but because of the good intentions itself there is a certain degree of uncertainty, and thus repeatedly by some "professional liars" to take advantage of - this is an indisputable fact. The "lie" itself is dark, the good and bad things are not measured by the purpose of things, the good intention of the lie itself is false. Although it faded away the beggar clothes put on the cheongsam, but still can not get rid of the essence of its lies, and lies mean deception, thus impeding the integrity. The starting point of the lie is good, but often this lie once punctured, the other side of the harm will be deeper, as the lie itself, has been contrary to the integrity of the behavior.
In the center of the **** published "the implementation of the program of civic moral construction" put forward in the 20 words of moral norms, "integrity" is a very important norms, integrity is to seek "true", is the pursuit of justice. The ancients said that "truthfulness" is the most sincere of all. The first time I saw this, it was a very important part of my life, and it was a very important part of my life.
As General Secretary Hu Jintao said in his speech: "The harmonious socialist society we are trying to build should be a society characterized by democracy and the rule of law, fairness and justice, honesty and friendship, vitality, stability and order, and harmony between man and nature."
Through the above multi-faceted analysis, we believe that no matter whether the lie is in a good purpose, as a lie is bound to impede integrity. (Author:Jiang Wenhong 09/25/09 09:49)
[Moderator]:
Please post the fourth defense of the opposing side; (Author:Zhang Xuan 09/25/09 09:50)
[Opposing Side]:
Good intentioned lies and honesty are ethical norms in different categories, and will not be in contradiction, just as a car will not crash into an airplane.
Integrity: Faith, in Chinese culture, "faith" and "righteousness" constitute "faith and righteousness", which is a humanistic spirit and a code of conduct for human beings. "Faith" and "sincerity" connected to the formation of "integrity" as a moral norm, is the Poi Lai Pin, modern Western jurisprudence sages put forward the "contractual society The concept of "contract society", the relationship between people are contractual relationships, in such a society, integrity is the bottom line of social morality, China's establishment of a market economy, to establish a standardized and orderly market, integrity has also become the most important criterion. Therefore, the modern sense of "integrity" is the market operation of the moral code.
Goodwill lies, from the starting point and the result of all kinds of goodwill lies, are to protect each other's feelings, to maintain each other's mental health and pleasure, is a kind of humanism. Due to the existence of well-intentioned lies, the world has become a better, more cozy, more harmonious, the world will be full of love, full of sunshine, children grow up healthily, the elderly enjoy their old age, the patient is full of hope.
So, these are two different areas of moral code, will not conflict with each other, contradict each other, good lies will not hinder integrity.
A well-intentioned lie is not a "lie" (a malicious lie), just as a whale in the sea is not a fish, and a mouse is not a rat. (Author: Huang Zongde 09/25/09 09:54)
[Moderator]:
Now we move on to the question period. First of all, I would like to invite the first defense to post a question; (Author:Zhang Xuan 09/25/09 09:54)
[Positive]:
Please note that the first defense of the other side, it is both a lie? What is goodwill? That is, good intentions! Why bother to lie?
Lies, although for good intentions, but as a lie itself, has been contrary to the integrity of the behavior, so, whether the lie is in a good purpose or not, as a lie is bound to impede the integrity.
With the spirit of the nation to a twilight look back, it turns out that the integrity of the lights in the end of the place. Across thousands of years, can still clearly hear: integrity is the virtue of the Chinese nation, like the Great Wall is the symbol of the Chinese nation. A person who loses integrity to leave behind is hypocrisy: a business if the loss of integrity will face bankruptcy then machine; and a nation if the loss of integrity will be on the degradation and death!
Keeping faith with the integrity of the integrity of a clean land, keep faith with the integrity of the letter to stay in the letter of success, keep faith with the integrity of the Chinese nation in order to eternal.
Here I would like to ask the other students, when a person in the loss of integrity, his starting point or good intentions?
(Author:Xu Jingyan 09/25/09 09:56)
[Moderator]:
Please answer the first defense of the opposing side, question (Author:Zhang Xuan 09/25/09 09:57)
[Moderator]:
Grab the answer (Author:Zhang Xuan 09/25/09 10:02)
[Opposing side].
Please note to the opposing defender that the topic we are debating today in my defense is whether good lies impede integrity, rather than discussing whether dishonest people still have good intentions. Please get the cause and effect logic right. The other side of the defense said that both is a lie how to goodwill, whether the existence of goodwill lies expressed doubt, since there is no goodwill lies our discussion today is still meaningful? (Author: Yu Lu September 25, 10:03)
[Moderator]:
Please answer the question (Author: Zhang Xuan September 25, 10:03)
[Positive]:
No need, why are we sitting here and debating?
The so-called well-intentioned lies can also lead to unforeseen consequences. An example of this is the case of a person who is terminally ill and is kept in the dark by family and friends in order to live out the rest of his life in peace, with no malice or self-interest whatsoever, but it often fails to live up to the expectations, and the deception is not sustained; instead, the patient loses his sanity to cooperate with the treatment and the time to take care of his personal affairs. The female philosopher Sisera? Polk warned that such lies can place a person on the verge of a major personality slide. In her book, Lying, Moral Choices in Public **** and Private Life, she writes: " Psychological barriers are removed, the ability to discern truth from falsehood becomes more blurred, and the notion that a lie will not be detected may tend toward paranoia..." Some psychologists who have studied the phenomenon of lying suggest that anyone who wants to tell a " well-intentioned lie" to a friend, relative, or coworker would do well to consider a question that involves a psychological reaction, i.e., whether the other person will thank you for your good intentions if he or she learns the truth, or whether he or she will feel that his or her long-standing trust in you has been hurt by you. (Author:Wu Yunhui Sep 25, 10:07)
[Moderator]:
Please answer the second defense of the opposing side and ask the question (Author:Zhang Xuan Sep 25, 10:07)
[Opposing side]:
The opposing side has already acknowledged the existence of well-intentioned lies. Family and friends do not interfere with treatment, in fact they are for the better, and stress only affects the condition. A mother divorced her husband when the child didn't know any better, and this mother told the child that your father was a seaman and was now abroad and would be back in a few days. The child was full of expectations of life and never suffered or felt inferior because of the lack of a member of his family - his father. Later, when the mother found a new husband and started a new family, she told the child: Your father is back from abroad. As a result, there was no gap between the child and his father, and the father treated the child as if he were his own because the child did not see him as a stranger. The father also treated the child as if he were his own. He tutored the child every day, and the child grew up healthily and became a student of a famous university. When one day the child graduates from college, she finally realizes that her father is not her real father, and although she also cries and is distressed that she has been deceived, he will eventually understand that his mother was right to do so, otherwise she would not have had a happy childhood, a healthy mind, good academic achievements, a happy family, a... ...(so much more).
Please ask the other apologist to ask himself, who in the world would doubt the character and integrity of the other party because of a well-intentioned lie? (Author:Jiang Yan Sep 25 10:15)
[Moderator]:
Please answer the third defense of the positive side, question (Author:Zhang Xuan Sep 25 10:16)
[Positive Side]:
"Well-intentioned lies are more excuses" !
Anyone who uses an excuse wants to use it to protect themselves or others. To help us save face so we can endure frustration.
Gesmer said, "It is quite common to think that you are better than you really are." The excuses people come up with are sometimes unexpected. Why do people delude themselves? The American humorist Laidlaw noted, "Most people live not in reality but in fantasy, especially about themselves." Then again, knowing the truth about yourself and your friends is sometimes so brutal that it's best not to know.
Yet most excuses are destructive. Using excuses unconsciously can fool others, if not yourself. So I ask the other person to realize that more honesty and less excuses! At the same time I would like to ask the other side, if we all have this view, how can we create a society of integrity and how can we make our country grow more in integrity?
(By:Jiang Wenbing September 25, 10:24)
[Moderator]:
Please answer the third defense of the opposing side and ask the question (By:Zhang Xuan September 25, 10:25)
[Opposite]:
People always habitually give a derogatory meaning to lies. This is because of the crisis of integrity in today's society, in fact, lies are neutral. Even if today's society puts forward the integrity of morality, there is no requirement to speak the truth in all kinds of circumstances, do not allow the existence of lies, good faith lies are not "lies" (malicious lies), and integrity is not contradictory, there is room for its existence, if we do not like the word "lies," the word "lies" will be used to describe lies. If you don't like the word "lie", we can mind linguists to create another word, such as "false words", "euphemism" to express the meaning of good faith lies.
Good lies leave behind the ugly and come into the beautiful world!
The lie of goodwill, abandoned selfishness, and came to the honesty of the earth!
Please ask the other side of the defense to give examples, who has been hurt because of the good intentions of the lie? Caused a loss of integrity?
(By:ChenYueMing September 25, 10:29)
[Moderator]:
Please answer the question from the fourth defense of the positive side (By:ZhangXuan September 25, 10:29)
[Positive side]:
You didn't answer the question of the third defense of the positive side positively. I think that even if a lie is well-intentioned, its negative impact is still very common. There is no need to give examples. This negative impact on the integrity of the damage is often more insidious, is a kind of chronic poisoning. Ignoring this toxicity is a cover-up. I would like to ask the other side of the debate, you say that the good faith lies and integrity are two categories, please you on the good faith lies to accurately define a definition? (By: Jiang Wenhong September 25, 10:36)
[Moderator]: