Langfang Foxconn do mold which department is better?

Hello buddies I have a little bit of the way in this area, I am specializing in new product design research and development, the original just graduated from the mold factory has done modeling design. Now specializing in design, usually procurement things I will also help, because we have practiced. Like Beijing Zhou

Side of the dry molds, plastics, large factories into the workshop also sat, read the factory countless ah. First of all, I do not know what kind of things you want to do, the place is not the same specialty is not the same. On the Beijing-Tianjin-Hebei region, there are a few places to open molds to do plastic is more concentrated. Beijing,

Tianjin, Huanghua, Cangzhou, Bazhou, Wen'an

Also other scattered places like Xiongxian, Hetao, Handan, Dongguang, Jingxian, Dusheng. (These can be directly ruled out, all aspects of supporting the lack of trouble, there is no decent factory, price, technology, quality have no advantage, more backward)

Beijing-Tianjin region

Beijing Tianjin (in fact, adding up to those factories to do a good job, and some of the other small factories are not good in size and equipment, the price is not low)

Like us although in Beijing but We do not do things basically in this part of Beijing, the price is too high. Because the Beijing-Tianjin area industrial chain is not very sound, and the factory operating costs are very high, and then there is the product profit ratio is also much higher.

If you do very precise things, like cell phones, camera parts and so on, you can do in Beijing, Tianjin around the city.

For example, a radio shell it, in Beijing mold may be 5-8 million, in Hebei may be 3-5 million, but the price is too low certainly quality problems.

To do injection molding processing is best to go to Hebei to do, because the quality of the same, the price difference is a lot, the amount of large can not stand.

Hebei region

In fact, like general spare parts, electrical parts, automotive parts and so on can be taken to Hebei to do, the cost can be much lower. However, not where you can do, this industry water is very deep, now a lot of liars and scumbags, it is easy to be deceived, and then you will be trapped

Products are also misdirected, or else the quality of the brown so much, can not be used at all, in this regard, I am very experience is more painful. I'll talk about it in detail.

Southern region

Southern Huangyan, Changzhou, Taizhou, Dongguan, Shenzhen. They are more cunning, either to show our stuff to others, or stealing to others to do. Suggest not to consider it.

You are looking for in the Hebei region is Cangzhou Huanghua Bazhou Wen'an more centralized, they are not too much difference in processing fees .

In Hebei, the technical level and scale of Huanghua is considered to be relatively good, mainly because of the lower percentage of profit in their prices. Huanghua now often go, there is the most concentrated place in the northern region of this industry, do anything, a **** there are several hundred. Mold

Plant a little scale should be more than 20, do injection molding is also a lot of large and small factories. Now we do some of the electrical accessories is that they give to do, now did not find any problem.

Wenan Bazhou These two places are not far away, the original have been, mold factory basically nothing decent factory is a small market, but the price is very low (after the fact to know that is their unique strategy to attract customers with the lowest price first, regardless of whether they can do

out, out of the qualified. Because you're stuck with the money you've spent). It's only good for making small, very rough things. There are also a lot of plastic processing, basically small factories as well. Equipment is very low-end, technology is also very backward, out of things very

brown, like some decent things do not do in this, to ensure that you regret is. If you do very rough stuff is still possible.

Originally, we have a number of new products, plans to market in May, from March to do, they offer a very advantageous than elsewhere, so they do here. But by the middle of April samples have not been able to come out, urgent our manager called every day. Directly after going to take a look at the

mold, can only be described as scrap metal. That structure, that mold frame, that size, no guide, less waterway, etc., etc..

Subsequently, because of the time reluctantly agreed to, to the time of injection molding, the results are often bad. Mold factory and plastic factory and they blame each other, and the first batch with the return material, due to the plastic parts are not strong enough, the return rate is very high. Forced to throw that away and made elsewhere.

There are several other cheating techniques, and so on in detail, not every family is like this but caution can not be less. (If you go to re-pelletize, they are a few hundred dollars per ton cheaper than elsewhere, in fact, all replaced with recycled material for you, you can not see.)

To teach you a few tricks how to choose mold factory, injection molding factory.

1 main look or boss. The boss is a kind of person, he is surrounded by what kind of people. If it is very lazy, the house is particularly dirty, messy, careful people from wearing clothes can reflect the meticulous degree of work. Then look at his character, which is very key to see a

a boss honest or not, it will be based on feelings.

2 small factories can not enter, if the boss on the age, or small factories, their own character, quality of the problem, work carefully not, dry on the trick. If the boss is very young, or small factories, then he will not be very reliable from all aspects,

3 look at the workshop workshop is not chaotic, clean equipment on the clean, molds and molds placed in a neat and tidy, nooks and crannies of the place to clean up not clean. One is to look at the quality of the boss and leadership, the second is to look at the quality of the staff, careful not careful, which is also very critical. If the staff does not

Responsibility that's the end, absolutely not.

4 look at the workshop equipment Look at what equipment, we must look for equipment all, now such a factory is a lot of mold factory to have: like CNC milling, precision engraving, EDM, CNC machine tools, wire cutting, now these are the most basic equipment, if not even these, that

will go directly away. Because if you let them plus the union will be very very troublesome, it is easy to have problems, the schedule will also have problems. Look at the degree of new and old equipment when out, if the very old machine, then directly away. The old machine precision performance is much worse, now the equipment are

Not expensive, if there is no money to change the new, then you can see the ability of the factory and how bad the level.

5 look at the staff First look at the staff clothes clean, mold this line is not so dirty, often see some of the workers in black oil, that is, for years and years of laziness, the boss does not care about the results, you can go directly. Look at how workers work is not in order,

There is no play on the side, there is also not. Some years ago, Beijing's teacher, wearing a special board raw, dry day's work on the body froze a point of oil is not This is called careful people.

6 and then look at their factory orders more or less, equipment, workers are not in operation, there is no idle workers. How many mold blanks are placed in the workshop. If they do not have a lot of work in the factory, it is time to think about it. Tell you if the work is done well, it is impossible not to be busy.

7 look at the office or sample room samples, which can be a trick. See what precision, electrical appliances, large samples, basically these types of products, you can see their experience. Then look at the sample, if there is printing on it, or very new, color and market

on the same, it may be another customer to bring or their own to set up. Molds, plastic manufacturers produce their own samples, because it is the product of experimentation, the material is generally miscellaneous, the color does not look good appearance is not bright.

Do product experience

Do mold, do injection molding, choose the supplier, not simply look at the size, price can be, because it is the processing industry, you do not know what they do out of the product and later service is the result. Still need to look at the points I mentioned above. If you understand this

line, you know what their costs and profits, know what kind of transaction price is appropriate. If you don't, you should at least know how to analyze it rationally. Usually people who don't know much will either get ripped off or you'll keep looking for a low price and fall for it.

And as a processing plant, when the customer requires a very low profit price range, close to cost or below cost, then what to do? Deal or no deal, don't fantasize about a super low price. They take orders certainly want to find ways to earn money, if the price is low that how to earn? Only

Reducing costs. I have investigated some of their means, the layman is more difficult to understand.

Don't be greedy for cheap, large factories and small factories if you do the same quality molds, injection molding parts, the price difference is basically very small, there is almost no difference, so try to do in some of the scale of the factory. These small factories are basically nothing to consider the need for a small scale, technology has

limit, obsolete equipment, or furnishings, authentic inverted. They need outsourcing in many aspects, time and quality they can not control themselves. Some factories in Beijing take over the job and then outsource it to manufacturers in Hebei to do it.

Remember, you can never change the profit margins of the processing plants, they report ultra-low prices or you press the price to a very low, their profits are and the cost of the product into a fixed proportion of the decline. In most cases, they have no bottom line in order to close the deal, which is

the most frightening. In order to close the deal, they unlimitedly reduce the material and processing costs of the product, the final loss is still your own. The cost of labor to reduce the price.

Reveal the shady

Mold factory shady more to go, the same mold reported 5000 20000 40000 have, for many reasons, but the price is very high, then the main profit look too high. The price is very low, the quality must be very rough.

The profits of the mold factory is very considerable, mold overall profits in the mold price of 30% -90%, but profits of more than 60% of the mold is a small part of the high-precision mold.

Generally 30% -60% profit is more common, but look at the profit margin is very high but can not do how many sets of molds a year, molds do not yield, simply can not earn much money, and also need to buy new equipment regularly, the money is invested in the factory, but the expansion of the scale of the turnover before

It is also not much. How many really large-scale plastic molding companies can you find? Have you ever heard of a plastic mold company going public? (Except for other mold factories due to different industry situations)

If made of the same quality, the cost will not be much difference. The main reasons for the difference in the price of the mold are as follows (emphasis added):

First of all, why. The phenomenon of high prices, this phenomenon is very common.

It is possible that you want to cut the price, if you will not cut that he earned. It is to cut not much to cut.

There may also be because he does not want to take orders, may not do, may be because of the need for external processing, may also be because of the lack of certainty that need to be added to the risk fee, when the production of pieces of waste can be redone.

This is also related to the cost of mold factory, which has a relationship with the region. Local supporting units, the local industry chain has not been formed, the local workers' wages, the local consumption level.

4 reported low price reasons. First of all, to make sure that there are many manufacturers report very real prices, moderate prices

Look at the boss is not to value you, treat you as an important customer will be lower. Small factories are generally reported low prices, the quality is also inferior, the only way to reduce the quality to reduce the price, if the quality of the same price will not be low.

Or look at the character, in the mold on the ghost methods are as follows:

1 material is the most common substandard, say what is used in the P20 material, with 45 steel you can not see, but also can not be detected, because the material is soft can not be done for a long time, the production of products out of the product will be very rough, a lot of flaws in the wire, the mold life is also very low. Only start production,

The problem will be known. What's more, they will take the iron to fool you, what to sign a contract, guarantee life, do before the guarantee of the bar, that are useless. Only give money that is important.

2 Some simplify the mold structure, can barely make a sample, but the product quality is very poor, processing costs and material costs are reduced. Simplify the method is different, but the result is the same, the quality of the product, production efficiency, mold life and so on will have an impact.

3 Reduce the size and weight of the mold, generally used together with the above two. The mold is made very thin, mold material size is small, so it is difficult to withstand the injection molding machine for a long time strong clamping force and injection force, the mold will be deformed or cracked.

4 to reduce the process, do some products molds need to do some processing, such as polishing, corrosion, nitriding, chrome plating, heat treatment, waterway number, milling, if he wants to save a certain process or fooling around is easy.

5 with low-cost processing machinery or methods, such as with electric drills, lathes or CNC costs much worse. The precision and surface quality of the molds made this way yields a lot. The accuracy of each part is not high, they assembled together this problem will be magnified, leading to a series of problems

Problems. This is why the big mold factory to buy good equipment.

6 mold with simplified, poor quality parts, save little money, but more harmful.

Injection molding factory shady

1 Use secondary material to pretend to be the original package material, or use low-priced return material to pretend to be high-priced return material. Now many factories do this, mainly to see the boss character. Some are hard to see with the naked eye, but the strength of the plastic parts, toughness, aging resistance, environmental protection, odor, etc. have a great

influence. If you let him use the secondary material, then you can only lose more, because you do not know what the quality of 7000 dollars of material, he used 5000 said 7000, the quality is not let you use 9000, in fact, is 7000. This is no standard, must use the original package

material. But the original package material they can also come up with ways to fake, can not be defended.

2 you do products in their factory, no matter who the mold is, they have a lot of cases is, someone to buy him to sell. Sell to your competitors behind your back.

3 looking for injection molding processing plant, do not open their own molds, because then the mold problems, they and the mold factory will have a lot of trouble between the proverbial rip-off and the ultimate victim is you. Directly to the plastic factory to open the mold so that problems can find them.

4 There are many factories said to help you bear the cost of molds, told you that is basically a lie. People do not get anything, why should you give you out of the mold fee? Who's stupid? In many cases the mold price they quoted is very high, you pay half of the basic enough. And that said

Mold and his share, if the problem later you can not take, and this way injection molding prices are also very high. Even if it's cheap at the time, it will find a way to go up later.

5 also said that the return of the mold fee, if the injection molded product prices are not high enough, no one back to you mold fee. So that you feel cheaper, in fact, you are more at a disadvantage. In fact, to return the mold fee before the mold life has come, you still have to spend money. Or return the mold

fees, mold immediately scrapped, you still have to take the money back.

6 You if you find a processing manufacturer, a come up with the manufacturer to mention the burden of the mold fee, return the mold fee, they will know that you have been in contact with the scammers, but you because you do not know that these two models are cheating you, so they still follow the model that they say.

Then the manufacturer will follow the way you say to work with you, because otherwise you will feel that it is not cost-effective and will go. "Since you have to be deceived, it is better for me to deceive you, at least I am better than them" This is an old friend to us do processing said to me.

7 There are material prices, material prices, it is best to understand your own in advance, because they quote, some of the treacherous business will report high material prices.

The above is some of my experience, written in haste, not modified. I hope to help you.