Moderator: Welcome Vae, with his latest album "Why not have tea? As a guest of the Chinese song list.
Vae: Hello, host. Hello, listeners and friends. I'm Vae.
Moderator: Why not have tea? Is this the mantra of your life?
Vae: It can be said to be a buzzword. Many times, my friends complained to me about something. I'm in a bad mood today, I quarreled with my boyfriend and girlfriend today, or something like that. I just said, put it down and have tea.
Moderator: In fact, the style of this album is very obvious, that is, the strong Chinese style, including the orchestration and words can see your skill. What do you think of the whole album this time? There will be works with Chinese style before, but not so strong.
Vae: Yes, the first four albums can be said to be comprehensive works of genre. They all want to play every piece of music. If you want to prove your different style, you can create and try. What about the fifth album? I hope you can put aside these so-called self-proofs, concentrate more on what you want to express, and do something that is purely heartfelt and you like. I think it is possible to impress friends who listen to music first.
Moderator: It is said that you have spent a lot of time wandering between mountains and rivers in the past two years.
Wy: Yes, I have been to many places. Of course, I don't think location is the purpose. What is important is that changing a place during a trip is actually changing a mood, away from the hustle and bustle of city life. When you go to the mountains and rivers, you can generally get a relaxed and indifferent mood to read books, think about some creative schemes or find a new feeling.
Compere: Is this for music or do you just want to get away from the noise of the city?
Vae: Both. On the one hand, this is my favorite lifestyle. On the other hand, it is definitely good for creation.
Moderator: What we are listening to at the moment is actually a very nice song "Between Mountains and Rivers" in your album. So, is this song inspired by visiting the great rivers and mountains of the motherland?
Vae: Actually, writing this song may have many parts. The first opportunity can be said to be obtained between mountains and rivers. At that time, I was walking and playing between mountains and rivers. That day just avoided the so-called tourist peak. There are five people in an empty mountain. Except for the cleaning staff in the mountains who occasionally see almost no one, the higher I go, the heavier the clouds are. When it reaches a certain height, the cloud will turn into rain. The rain scene photographed petals falling across the river, which is a kind of swaying described in the song. At that time, I felt that the picture was very shocking, so I had the original intention of this song: intermittent rain, and then to enrich and improve this work. I hope to use this song to express that I can put down the noise and troubles of the city and get a relaxed state of mind between mountains and rivers. I also hope to pass on this attitude in this song to friends around me, including the audience, so that everyone can feel this mood.
Moderator: I was very idle when I heard this song, and it was a bit of a wild crane. But I know that the creation of this song is not easy, because the lyrics, composition, arrangement, recording and sound instrument mixing are all done by myself. In the recording studio, you may have to deduct every accompaniment and every note.
Vae: Yes, this album invited some folk musicians and excellent musicians to cooperate with it. We may discuss a lot of details together in the recording studio, because the arranger will know all the instruments, but the specific instruments depend on the musicians to judge whether we should swing straight or soft or how to do it in this place. This process is also a process for us to enhance our experience again, which is very good.
Moderator: Yesterday, Vae held the release conference of his fifth album "Why not have tea" at the Beijing Opera House, which is the pear garden in Beijing. There is actually a design of tea ceremony at the scene, which is antique. Do you know anything about tea ceremony?
Vae: I can't say I know much about it, but I will watch such a tea ceremony performance. In fact, I think all performances are just a form. The important thing is to substitute you into the real atmosphere of drinking tea, and you are really at peace of mind.
Moderator: I noticed that the whole album also has Zen meaning, including your lyrics, which shows that you have a lot of research on Tang and Song poetry. I know you used to watch this in college, and it was also influenced by your grandfather.
VIA: Yes, it's a long-term childhood influence.
Compere: Can you recite it when you are young?
Vae: Yes, at that time, the parents' meeting asked them to touch this kind of thing at the beginning without understanding its meaning. Now that I think about it, this is a positive influence.
Moderator: It is also a very unexpected gain, especially if the lyrics are only piled up in classical Chinese, it seems a bit melodramatic and artificial.
Vae: Yes, that's right, so its scale, including whether you use allusions or not, and whether you intend to combine them, becomes very important. What is the right feeling?
Moderator: Do you have any experience in writing lyrics or your usual thoughts?
Vae: I think it's a good idea, because some different creations can be written at once, and then I feel good if I don't change them. Usually, they will be revised repeatedly. It may be a song written a long time later. Look back in a few months, and you will feel something. It may be the transformation of a few words, and its realm or accomplishment can be upgraded to a higher level. Therefore, this is a process of constant introspection.
Moderator: Keep polishing, then polish it more carefully and exquisitely, and then get closer to an idea in your heart, and get closer to what you want to express.
Vae: But sometimes the opposite is true, that is, you push too hard, or your revision may lose the reason for your original creation, or even your revision is actually unnecessary. This is entirely possible, so this scale will become very important.
Moderator: So it is difficult to grasp and grasp this scale.
Vae: Yes, so creation is also a kind of fun, that is, you will repeatedly taste your own ideas and tell yourself what this thing should be like, and you will continue to accumulate this kind of experience, and you will also know yourself in the process of creation.
Moderator: It suddenly occurred to me that it was at the press conference that Isabel went to sing "Surprised Face" with you yesterday. She said you were a scholar on the surface, but you were naughty in private. What is your naughty performance?
Vae: naughty. Actually, I think I'm fine. My naughty language may be more relaxed and casual. For example, I am very relaxed now. If there are many friends present, I may enter a dull mode and become less talkative.
Moderator: Actually, I saw your state in the recording, that is, you are very serious and rigorous, and every detail can get to the point. For example, don't be too angry in this place, or the suffix and vowel of this place can be a little longer, so that you can find and capture it even if it is very small, because I know that your major is actually a medical student.
Vae: Yes, my undergraduate major is medical university, but music is also in primary school. I began to learn the piano at the age of eight and was exposed to classical music. Now 20 years have passed. In fact, it is an accumulation process. As for singing, it is also a process of giving advice to other songs. Isabel, for example, I don't need to say much. Some behind-the-scenes tidbits you see may be easier for her to communicate, because she has very good singing skills and understanding. If you tell her this, she will understand that she may have met some singers who need to speak at the lowest level before, which may be slower.
Compere: When I wrote this song, Isabel came to my mind?
Vae: You can say that, because I heard her songs a long time ago, and even when she sang, I lived on campus. Itchy in 2007. I didn't graduate when I sang these songs, so I said her music was more mature than mine, so I was very happy to cooperate.
Moderator: It's really like a surprise between mountains and rivers. Like a flick of a finger. Let's listen to the song "Surprised Face" sung with Isabel.
Compere: In the copy of this album, there is your inner monologue: there are so many things you can't figure out, so many hearts you can't figure out, and so many people you can't figure out. It is better not to think, not to guess, not to see, not to live happily, not to drink tea. In such a rapidly developing era, have you always wanted to maintain such a mentality or such a life?
Vae: Yes, it's better to get rid of tea, because you want to express it through music. In fact, it is also a kind of self-encouragement and self-vigilance. What if you encounter many problems that you can't think about or struggle with?
Compere: Do you have any questions?
Vae: Of course. In fact, it is inevitable that you will fall into a dead end at work, and you will want to have a right or wrong? There will always be, but just tell yourself, don't be so persistent. There are many things that are not important.
Moderator: That is to say, you may have put a lot of effort into music, so sometimes it's easy to get entangled and serious?
Vae: Then go to tea, or be serious, it may never be better. It's just that as long as it is related to others, I think I can relax a little, so I think it doesn't matter if I'm serious with myself.
Compere: It is better to have tea in this picture, because there are many Chinese folk musical instruments such as guzheng, bamboo flute, Xiao Yu, guqin and Ma Touqin, but we can also hear the infiltration of some western musical instruments, such as the grand strings added in the fingers, the ensemble of guzheng or jazz guitar between mountains and rivers. Did you design these on purpose, or do you like them?
Vae: What can I say? In fact, arrangement and production are also a part of creation, or a continuation of creation. I hope it's not so old-fashioned, that is to say, if they are all Chinese folk music, they may not be in line with their own mentality. Then I hope it has both traditional folk music and the characteristics of this era. For example, I put the popular electronic timbre into the period, hoping to sound more impactful. Of course, mixing this thing is nothing new. Many people say that I have made a lot of innovations in mashups. In fact, it is just a form, a short hand. The core is whether it serves you to express your songs and add points to your songs. This is the most important, so this measure is very important.
Moderator: Did you encounter any difficulties in this mashup?
Vae: Actually, you need to keep practicing mashups, such as the vague arrangement of this song. The electronic timbre I used when editing included many distorted guitars, which is very common in rock music, but I added the timbre of Ma Touqin, so how to blend these two timbres actually requires a lot of fine-tuning. This adjustment may be the continuous integration of musicians' performances and the continuous attempt of different styles of performance. On the other hand, I need to make some adjustments in the echo.
Compere: Just now, the mix of Ma Touqin and electronic music is vague. Where did the inspiration for writing this song come from?
Vae: Inspiration, inspiration is also vague. Many friends asked me what the lyrics of this song meant, and I felt that a lot of things said its meaning, and this matter became boring. In fact, we can have more imagination, and there is not so much to explain or need a clear answer. Just like listening to classical music, there may be no lyrics. What do you mean by this piano music, right? Everyone will have a different opinion. Your life and experience make you have a different understanding of the same music. Lyrics are only auxiliary in some music forms. For example, this one is rather vague. When the fireworks are cool, I don't think the lyrics are important. This is an atmosphere, a feeling.
Moderator: Your fans are very concerned about your health and the problems of your other half. Someone told you to eat more and not be so thin. Answer first, do you eat less?
Vae: It's actually quite good. Maybe, I don't know. If you use your brain a little more, it seems difficult to turn your appetite into fat and gain weight.
Moderator: Maybe cats are in the studio all day, and they get less sunshine.
Vae: Actually, it's okay. Because there are many performances, I often need to go out when traveling, but maybe your brain hasn't stopped and kept thinking, and it's still difficult to gain weight, but I feel healthy and good.
Moderator: So let them rest assured.
Vae: Yes, thank you for your concern.
Compere: But they can't rest assured that it's your other half. It seems that you should go to Weibo to update your favorite genre in time.
Vae: Actually, it's all right now. I am not that old. I can wait two years, I think, right.
Moderator: We have heard many works with this Chinese style in this album "Why Not Have Tea", but there is also your own style in this Chinese style, such as the title song "Between Mountains and Rivers", which is now ranked second in the Chinese song list. This song is in the second song of your album. The first song is When the Fireworks are Cold. This song sounds a bit like Gusu, in Hanshan Temple, in a temple.
Vae: Actually, the first half is mainly about instrumental music. My teacher and I spent a lot of time and energy in this respect. Actually, what matters is what I just said. This is the creation of an atmosphere. As for the lyrics, be careful with candles when the weather is dry. You understand that it is ok for a person to come to your side to remind you of one thing. Some friends said that because I posted a Weibo saying that the weather is dry and my heart is dry, reading is a good humidifier, which makes everyone calm down, go to school and listen to music, and there are not so many distractions, so many friends may think this song is suitable for some of their feelings at that time. I think you can understand it in any way. As I said, different people have different understandings, which is what makes music interesting. Actually, I pay more attention to the fun in music. I think this is very important. This does not mean that we need to stir up feelings to make sad music or drive you to make false high-pitched music. I don't think I'm good at making that kind of music. I care more about the atmosphere.
Moderator: It may be that after you are tired after a day's work, or when you are very upset, you suddenly feel that you are in a paradise after listening to such a concert, and then your heart will be simpler and calmer.
Vae: Is it the desired effect?
Moderator: The design of this album is very thoughtful, with the feeling of ancient books, this binding, and then the design in the middle, a hollow tea bowl, right?
Vae: Yes, the design of physical records also carries out the concept of the whole album. Very simple, very simple, just a bowl of landscape and a bowl of tea, right.
Compere: Did you also participate in the design of this album?
Vae: I have participated in some suggestions, but some experts have detailed plans and plans.
Compere: I heard that he was also nominated by Grammy?
(Michelle Ye Popular Science: The album design for drinking tea is Xiao Qingyang, a teacher from Taiwan Province. He has been in the business for more than 20 years and has designed more than 800 albums, many of which are best-selling albums by famous singers and pop singers. )
Vae: Yes, it should be the only teacher China who was nominated for the Grammy Record Design and Packaging Award.
Moderator: So I can see that the design of this album is simple and not simple, just like the music quality of your album.
Vae: Because I also talked a lot with the design teacher, I hope there are not so many complicated things, including some so-called literature and art, small freshness, or ancient style. In fact, I think these are all very formal things, but they should be like this in everyone's imagination. I don't think so. We think it's very simple. Starting from the font, the typesetting of the lyrics on the inner page is to pursue simplicity while maintaining it.
Moderator: As Vae said just now, the design of this album is very thoughtful, and there will be a sense of heaviness and inner peace when you get it. So leave some time for Vae at the end of today's program and share with us what kind of arrangements you have next.
Vae: Next, in addition to some promotional activities of this album, I also began to prepare my own new concerts, song clubs, including concerts, hoping to sing the songs of this album in different places and share new music with you. Besides, more time is endless creative work, because this is what I like to do. Then, I will start a new journey for my sixth album.
Host: Do you have any thoughts on the sixth album?
Vae: There won't be such a whole idea, but the songs have accumulated.
Moderator: Just now I also talked about holding a concert. Just now, fans also said that it is to protect your voice, that is, I hope you must have a good rest when you create ~
Vae: Today's voice is a little sorry, but it's hoarse, because it's really neglected recently. The interview may last for three or four hours after yesterday's press conference, so today's voice is a little sorry.
Moderator: In fact, if you don't say it, everyone should not hear it.
Wy: That's great.
Moderator: Today's program is over. I also wish that Vae's tea can bring a kind of spiritual comfort to people who have heard a lot, and then you can feel the carefree between the mountains and rivers of Xanadu in such a bustling metropolis.
Vae: Thank you. Talk to you next time. Bye.